>> what we expect is a close race. the reason it will be a big race is we have big choices at stake here. there is a choice between governor romney's opportunity society with rising income and more jobs for everyone and a real recovery against president obama's government centric vision which has resulted in 23 million persons americans struggling to get work. bill: "politico" writes on that debate today about a do or decision for governor romney. how do you see it? >> well, look, these debates are important, there will be three of them in the month of october. but, look, we know what we are up against. the president is an experienced speaker,er has substantial debate experience. this will be his 8th one-on-one presidential debate. it will be mitt romney's first. apparently the president is going to be in nevada for three days undergoing intensive debate preparation. what we expect he'll do at those debates, even though we have the facts and a strong pro jobs message on our side i think you'll see the president to use